Virtually unmoved.

Well, not entirely true. Moved to kitchen to get more juice.

Ken,
You forgot to mention that Oprah said if she were a lesbian she'd tell everyone because she thinks there's nothing wrong with being gay. That's like the most important part.

(Seriously, were people saying she was gay before? Because this is the first I've heard of it.)

I notice that, whatever she may say, nobody's jumping on a couch about her.

Oh, yes, there have been long-standing gay rumors about Oprah.

She has this man, to whom she has been engaged for about a hundred years.

And she has this friend, female, with whom she spends lots and lots of time and they wear matching diamond pinky rings and yada yada yada.

And you know, since Oprah is "our" savior or whatever, people pay lots of attention that that shit.

My father-in-law, who is very well-known and respected neurologist (worldwide) has said this about her, has said she is a, "moron." I think that may have been about the Texas cattle thing.

He has also made armchair clinical assessments with the assistance of Dr. Single Malt about Jane Fonda. He pronounced her "a retard."

Like I said, he is world-reknowned for his expertise.

Who is Oprah?

First I've ever heard of it too. And I was moved to go get some more coffee. But not so much as to jump on furniture or quote "Seinfeld".

I think Susanna's father-in-law should have his own show.

Jeff,
She's just this fat chick with a TV show. Because she hugs her guests a lot, people think she's the pillar of sensitivity. She also tells people to read books so apparently she's also really smart too. I wouldn't really know, since I pretty much consider every show of hers I've watched a punishment of sorts and try to block it out of my mind.

I can't believe Susanna just now found her way here. I swear I gave her the link YEARS AGO.

Ohy good, now I don't have to remove the Oprah posters I have plastered all over my room, or the shrine I built...

And you would if she were a lesbian, Dirt? My god, what kind of person are you?!?!?

While I'm not a fan of the show, I will admit that I have a lot of respect for Oprah. She pulled herself out of the gutter, out of poverty, through sheer force of will, determination, and used her dreams and visions to become a media juggernaut.

Since then she's never talked about how she was kept down by "the man." She's a strong advocated of self reliance and personal responsibility.

She personafies the American Dream. I am not going to cut down anyone for that.

And that's all I ever care to say about Oprah.

I will parrot what Cullen has said. Can't argue with a bit of that. I give her credit for that.

After all, she is "The Man" now. Heh.

But a good friend of mine is a *professional* makeup artist (like one of the ones that gets $3000 to show up and paint faces and has authored two books and has a QVC line in the works - does not work for Oprah) and frequently talks about the subtleties of Oprah's "look."

She talks about Oprah's "serious hair." Like she'll have her hair done in a very polished, mature way when she's going to talk about, say, the cattle industry in Texas. (which prompted my father-in-law to diagnose her a "moron") Or child predators. Or similar.

And then she has her "you so crazee girl" hair for those days when she is talking about her dogs and eyebrow waxing.

So funny. Kim will say, "and then she puts on her serious hair..."

I now know far more about Oprah than I ever feared possible.

Cullen,
I don't begrduge her any of her success. She's worked hard for it and earned it.

As for her never claiming to be "kept down," for the most part, she hasn't. But let's not forget the time she showed up disheveled to a French department store after hours demanding that they accomodate her. When she wasn't recognized, she claimed she was refused because she was black. Whatever.

I only take issue with the fact that she's worshipped as this beacon of truth and intelligence when she's the person who virtually invented trash television. I'll give her credit for reconsidering her format since then, but not much more than that. This is a woman whose "thoughtful" guests on the subject of civic responsibility include Cameron Diaz passionately arguing that people who think rape is cool shouldn't vote.

Well, it is TV. For any good example within the medium that you can point out, there will be plenty of vapidity there.

No one's life is going to look good all the time when it's viewed through a magnifying glass.

"She's just this fat chick with a TV show."

Oh, that fat chick! Made lots of money by telling people what they want to hear .I haven't watched daytime TV in years, but I do recall her from back when, and more recent comments on this blog.

I'm the kind of person who never watched cable TV...

"Oh, that fat chick"

Jeff, be sure you're not confusing her with Kirstie Alley, who simply stayed fat. Oprah kinda yoyoed, I hear.

Also, I think Oprah was the one that launched Dr. Phil on an unsuspecting world. That erases any possible good she may have accomplished and pushes her far toward the "people who should be poked with a sharp stick" category.

Yeh Dr. Phil is her boy-toy, part of her media empire - she's constantly grooming another homunculus to unleash.

A rat's ass.

I couldn't give.