This e-mail exchange from a few years ago between two comedy writers is one of the funniest things I've ever read. Full disclosure: of all of the programs mentioned in the exchange, the only one I've ever watched was about five minutes of "That 70s Show," which I thought was terrible. I just found the one guy thinking an idea for a parody skit about a rock band was "stolen" from him was hilarious. This town has more than its fair share of ass-kissers, name-droppers and back-stabbers (or perhaps, arguably, as many as it deserves), but there are some stories or concepts that just aren't original enough to claim as your own. That's as ridiculous as all those sociologists I had to read in college who would take the most obvious pieces of common sense, plug them through a thesaurus, restate them in fifty cent words, rename them "The Pretentious Git Theory" or something like that and then try to claim "intellectual copyright." Morons.
Posted by Emily at August 29, 2006 07:50 AM | TrackBack (0) |//Nobody watched our show so I don't see how that could be the reason your pilot died.//
HAHAHAHAHA
Also:
//Yes, you thought of breaking the fourth wall. Groucho and George Burns stole it from you.//
Omigod.
I love how it gets ugly IMMEDIATELY. I mean, it's awful to say someone "Get cancer" - but then to write: "Love, Mark"
//So hold on to your hate and rage, even though it makes no sense. I'll go back to my life of thievery and leeching. //
Also this beauty:
//Let me know who thinks I am a hack so I can kiss their ass as well. I also suck dick lately. That's how I got my Dreamworks deal. //
And:
//I'm sure it's hard for you to believe, but I do not control the national media. //
Judd really keeps his cool in the face of that WACKJOB.
That was so enjoyable to read.
Posted by: red at August 29, 2006 07:59 AMI guess if Mark Brazill doesn't go insane over stuff that makes no sense, the terrorists win.
Apparently so.
Posted by: Lisa at August 29, 2006 08:08 AMWasn't it? I mean, unless the skit he was referring to was like a word-for-word rip-off of something he wrote, the guy is completely off his head to accuse the guy of stealing his idea. And he's so UGLY about it. "Die in a fiery accident and taste your own blood." Oh my fucking GOD.
"If you think cancellation hurts me at this point, you haven't been following my career as closely as I thought."
I LOVE this guy.
Posted by: Emily at August 29, 2006 08:10 AMComics always borrow from each other. That's - duh - part of the deal. Also that - this dude has been harboring resentment for all these years - and Judd's like: "Uhm, I still thought of you as an old friend ... I had no idea that you were so, uhm, out of your F***ING MIND!"
Posted by: red at August 29, 2006 08:12 AMThe best part is how Judd from the start tried to bring things down to a civil level - his opening letter was a fucking unsolicited apology, for chrissake - and the other guy just fumes from the go. I love how he finally just lets loose in the end and gives the guy a good serving of asshole right back.
"Usually the cancer insult is a closer."
HAHAHAHAHA.
Posted by: Emily at August 29, 2006 08:18 AMhahahahahahaha
Posted by: red at August 29, 2006 08:24 AM > Tell her I know how she feels
***I'm on it.
The perfect reaction to guarantee the wackjob will go nuts. I applaud that move.
BTW, I don't apologize for stealing all your ideas and I never will.
Posted by: marc at August 29, 2006 08:29 AMMarc,
It's okay, because in your case, I've known you were an uncreative loser from the start, so there's ultimately nothing to be disappointed about.
This is so gorgeous!
I feel for the writers that have to pitch to you. Never doubt how much they hate you.
Presenting to a "genius" and getting silence and an occasional blink in return is one of the worst feelings you could ever have in your professional life.
And it's something that happens to me more than I like to admit.
Posted by: Shannon at August 29, 2006 09:11 AMI still can't stop laughing at the line "As for the cancer, I'll wait till you get it and then steal it from you."
Posted by: Emily at August 29, 2006 09:15 AMLaughing and hating the prima donnas at the same time. I think writers are the worst at this diva shit...and I say that as a writer!!!
Posted by: Sharon Ferguson at August 29, 2006 09:17 AMoh man - I take back waht I just said....I have a hard time accepting an explanation from someone who refuses to accept an apology, and the tone of Judd's first couple of letters sounded so decent.
Strange thing is, I've come across Mark-like divas in closer circles and they are just as unpleasant and self-righteous...not to mention cruisin for a bruisin when they cross the wrong path. Or at least one can hope.
This actually makes me feel not so alone when it comes to what happens when someone gets the idea they are gods in their own minds....
Posted by: Sharon Ferguson at August 29, 2006 09:30 AMWell, and screenwriters are the lowest of the low. It makes them insane sometimes. You kind of can't get any less respected than those people. And getting that CREDIT on the screen is everything. It means everything - in terms of career, your paycheck, your future. I don't see it as being "divas" so much as I see it as being highly aware that they TOTALLY dispensible. Part of the job. Obviously the Judd guy has managed to not get CRAZY because of that reality - and the other dude has gone off the deep end because of it. hahaha
Also - I love how the crazy guy truly believes that "breaking the fourth wall" is HIS idea. Uhm - what????? hahahaha
Posted by: red at August 29, 2006 09:32 AMPretty much any comedy sketch about a band is ripping of Spinal Tap, isn't it? Heck they did it to themselves with "A Mighty Wind".
Posted by: John at August 29, 2006 09:35 AMSharon,
It's not even that he wouldn't accept the apology for something that happened ten years ago, it's that he's still mad about it to the point where he cannot even be civil to an old friend over some irrationally perceived grievance...like Sheila mentioned, this dude actually thinks he invented the concept of the "fourth wall." How big of a clueless retard to you have to be?
John,
Judd even mentioned Spinal Tap at some point during the correspondence. Cervantes should rise from the grave and sue them for having the nerve to rip off his ideas about utilizing satire.
Lord knows if anyone else ever uses a fart joke, then they're in for a heap of hell!
Posted by: marc at August 29, 2006 10:04 AMThis is why I only use terrible ideas on my blog. I'm wise to these jokers. Steal this meme, baby!
Posted by: Nightfly at August 29, 2006 10:08 AMLet this be a lesson to you all: only steal from dead writers.
Posted by: Angie Schultz at August 29, 2006 10:19 AMAnd - I mean, so much of comedy is PARODY anyway ... so the whole "original idea" thing just gets really murky. You just need to chill OUT and keep going with what you're doing, and not make too many enemies, and just keep going. There are very few original ideas left in the world. Deal with that.
Posted by: red at August 29, 2006 10:20 AMI know, Sheila.
"Hey, you stole my idea for a sit-com about a family that lives in the suburbs, right down to the cracks about the difficulties of raising teenagers and the nutty neighbor sidekick!"
Posted by: Emily at August 29, 2006 10:38 AMWow - I've never heard THAT idea before! It's something completely New!!! Break the fourth wall a couple of times, and you have truly ground-breaking television.
Posted by: red at August 29, 2006 10:47 AMI don't know. We could always discover a fifth wall.
(Quick search of the internets)
Too late. Artists already have. Sixth wall is taken by porno writers and some Spanish language writer.
Seventh wall belongs to Minas Tirith
Eighth wall brings us to Burning Man, man.
Damn. There just aren't any walls left.
Didn't Dante do a ninth wall, or am I misbemembering?
Posted by: Ken S, Fifth String on the Banjo of Life at August 29, 2006 11:31 AMWhat does "misbemember" mean?
Posted by: Emily at August 29, 2006 11:43 AM"I still can't stop laughing at the line "As for the cancer, I'll wait till you get it and then steal it from you.""
That's the one that got me, too, Emily. Classic. Game, set, and match.
Posted by: Rob at August 29, 2006 03:58 PMSheila, Emily - thanks :D That explains a particular person I have encountered online. They are a screenwriter, and seem to believe they are "cutting edge" on writing something that is basically porn. When told that their material didnt fit the purpose of a more genteel site, they went off the vicious deep end. Its just weird how all of this is popping up amongst other bloggers I know just recently. Either that, or I have been incredibly sheltered. I love how Judd took the high road...and only got nasty when pushed.
Marc - love all those levels of hell...I mean, walls!
Posted by: Sharon Ferguson at August 29, 2006 06:41 PMSharon - no doubt, because you were a Puritanical censor who couldn't appreciate True Genius Art. You were scared of his talent! (Admittedly, his talent for being a possibly dangerous turd, but still.)
Posted by: Nightfly at August 29, 2006 08:55 PMOh god, Sharon. He's not one of those people that thinks he's being "edgy" and "real" because he just writes base and depraved bullshit, is he? Even better...is he planning to have it filmed in black and white so it's super real and artisitic?
Yawn.
Posted by: Emily at August 30, 2006 07:08 AMMaybe he could write something about the dark underbelly lurking beneath the comformist sheen of suburban life. The world simply hasn't seen enough indictments of the lie at the heart of the American Dream. Well, critics haven't at least.
Posted by: marc at August 30, 2006 07:54 AMYep - but its worse than that...its a SHE. Is okay though. I fortunately didnt get too familiar with her work...probably because I was really trying to focus more on what I was doing. *whew!* I have no idea if she has had any of her screenplays accepted. I guess I wont ever, 'cause I dont move in those circles! LOL
Posted by: Sharon Ferguson at August 30, 2006 07:59 AMSharon, when I was in school, the English departments lit. mag included a story just like that, basically porn pretending to be edgy. Some idiots in one of the funding committees pulled funding from the magazine over it. So at a big student senate meeting (Hey! I need something for my resume), the magazine advisor and the author showed up. The author had this smug artiste busting away at bourgeous norms attitude ready to be a martyr. So it comes time and we unanimously restored the funding, which was obviously unexpected and a bit deflating to him. In the process we took the time to point out that his writing was crap (including quoting passages from it to make our point) and that we hoped future writers from the English department would be able to, you know, write. Just because they let his "edgy" shit through was no reason to shut down the whole thing. It was pretty hilarious to see them win and be destroyed at the same time.
Posted by: marc at August 30, 2006 08:12 AMOoops...I don't know why I always assume lame people like that are a "he." I wouldn't want to get familiar with work like that even if I didn't have my own shit to worry about.
Posted by: Emily at August 30, 2006 08:13 AM