With stupid rubbish like this, I'm never short of amazed at how many people have been sucked into Hubman's Clam Trap:
In the old-fashioned language that marks the Traditional version, the groom is reminded that "girls" need "clothes and food and tender happiness and frills, a pan, a comb, perhaps a cat" -- and is asked to provide them all.The bride, in turn, is told that "young men are free and may forget" their promises.
Yeah, that pretty much sounds like the kind of bull-honkey wedding vows that bigoted, wife-beating, megalomaniacal shit-for-brains would come up with.
Posted by Emily at November 15, 2006 10:03 AM | TrackBack (0) |So you're saying you don't want a cat?
Posted by: marc at November 15, 2006 10:11 AMBigot! I'll sue you in England!
Posted by: Tainted Bill at November 15, 2006 10:12 AMA lovely bit of ominous from the end of the article:
"People do have a lot of questions but in a few years from now when a few more thousand people have attended Scientology wedding ceremonies, it won't be something people have heard about but have never seen," she said.Whee. Posted by: marc at November 15, 2006 10:14 AM
If a man ever buys me a cat, I will kill him. No questions, no warnings, nothing. Just instant death.
Bill - I'd be disappointed if you didn't!
Posted by: Emily at November 15, 2006 10:14 AMMarc,
I know! That sentence gave me the creeps, in an "after we take over the world" sense.
Um. Then your birthday gift is just a box. A strangely heavy, lopsided, never to be opened box.
Enjoy!
Posted by: marc at November 15, 2006 10:15 AMIf I bought Christie a pan, she'd probably go upside my head with it.
Yeah, like you'd ever buy me a birthday present.
Posted by: Emily at November 15, 2006 10:29 AMBut I bet if you also bought her a comb and a cat at the same time, she'd be perfectly happy.
I thought you'd at least appreciate Hubman's sentiments to women - gee, men will sometimes "forget" their vows so you should be patient and understanding when he's a shit husband. That sounds exactly the kind of thing Hubman would believe.
Posted by: Emily at November 15, 2006 10:35 AMMaybe I just hold myself to a higher standard than Hubman would expect.
Posted by: Tainted Bill at November 15, 2006 10:38 AMSomething tells me Christie probably wouldn't have said "yes" if those were the vows she had to take.
Posted by: Emily at November 15, 2006 10:44 AMAll I need is a pan, a comb, and a cat.
Seriously. I dream of having those three things. All at once. 'Twould be heaven on earth.
But I can't buy those things for myself. I need a man to provide them. OBVIOUSLY.
And clearly, this man needs to heed the vows as well. He needs a comb. Or better yet - a buzzcut. I mean, honestly. DO something about those bangs, dude. You look like a jackass.
Posted by: red at November 15, 2006 10:52 AMDon't worry about it, red. In a few years, when a few more thousands have used that bangs tech, you won't find it that odd.
Posted by: marc at November 15, 2006 10:56 AMGo easy on him, Sheila. Just because he's not willing to admit to himself that he's a homo doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to have a homo haircut.
Posted by: Emily at November 15, 2006 11:00 AMI couldn't even get "to obey" inserted in there.
Posted by: Tainted Bill at November 15, 2006 11:01 AMNo self-respecting gay man would have horrible bangs like that.
Posted by: red at November 15, 2006 11:01 AMAlso, Tommy boy - hate to break it to you - but you are not a "young man", like the vows say.
Posted by: red at November 15, 2006 11:03 AMAs if we needed yet another reason to stop the spread of this dangerous nonsense. Add to the list "the threat of the spread of stupid-looking bangs."
Posted by: Emily at November 15, 2006 11:10 AMTender happiness? Shoot, I likes my happiness ROUGH!
Posted by: Lisa at November 15, 2006 11:10 AMUm, yeah. So this is what I'd get out of the deal:
clothes: well, I'd argue pretty much everyone needs them. It's an ongoing need too, but one I've got under control.
food: ditto. Though food will probably soon be banned by the anti-obesity police, to be replaced by a regimen of vitamin pills and fiber smoothies.
tender happiness: I don't even know what that means. I know what happiness is and frankly, if I'm not happy now, marrying some schlub isn't going to make me happy. But "tender happiness"? What is that? Happiness that's been pre-tenderized?
frills: Not here. If a guy wants a woman to wear frills, he's infantalizing her, IMHO. Women over 25 or so probably should not wear frills.
unless we're talking about Elizabethan collars in a period play.
a pan - check, I bought that for myself
a comb - well, I have curly hair, so I prefer a natural-bristle hairbrush, but yeah, bought that for myself.
a cat - in the abstract, I like cats. However, I have a recently-refinished hardwood floor. And I have lots of "soft furnishings" that a determined cat could either claw or pee on. No thanks.
And what am I asked to give him in return? Apparently, let the guy roam if he wants to, and realize that he may "forget" his vows.
Yeah, not so much. Doesn't seem like a fair deal to me. He gets to sleep around and I get a pan.
But then again, what do you expect, for a "religion" invented by some hack writer?
Posted by: ricki at November 15, 2006 11:19 AMThe left side of my brain is telling me we should just ignore him and he'll go away. The right side of my brain is telling me that we should continue to heap large amounts of scorn at him and maybe even pay someone to beat the holy hell out of him, if only for his failure to make a decent movie since Far and Away.
Obviously, I am torn about what to do.
I keep saying "a comb, a pan, and perhaps a cat" really fast, trying to figure out if there is something else that it could mean. Can't come up with anything.
Posted by: KG at November 15, 2006 11:29 AMRicki,
Come on. You also get a comb. Surely that's enough to excuse infidelity and/or being ignored. After all, it's a comb!
I didn't expect any more than this from the likes of Hubturd. He was a bigamist who treated his own wives like crap while he was alive - even had one of them take the fall for one of his "operations" against the government that resulted in her being given a prison sentence. That man was a self-absorbed asshole of the highest order.
Posted by: Emily at November 15, 2006 11:31 AM"DO something about those bangs, dude. You look like a jackass."
Uh, Red, donkeys have feelings. There's no need to be disparaging to them.
Posted by: Julie at November 15, 2006 11:40 AMI'm with Lisa.
Spare me the "tender happiness".
Gimme the pan, the comb, the cat, that's fine. But you can keep your "tender happiness" malarkey.
Posted by: red at November 15, 2006 11:41 AMAll I need is a pan, a comb, and a cat.
Well, I need a bit more than Sheila:
All I need is a pan, a comb, a cat and... this ashtray... That's it just a pan, a comb, a cat and this ashtray... and this remote control... and this paddle game... That's it that's all I need just a pan, a comb, a cat, the ashtray, the remote control and the paddle game... and this lamp...
Posted by: JFH at November 15, 2006 11:46 AMYeah, really. That's an insult to jackasses. I apologize.
Posted by: red at November 15, 2006 11:54 AMAw man, work sucks. All the good comments are already taken.
Although "a pan, and perhaps a cat" just cries out for an un-PC comment about certain, er, varieties of far Eastern cuisines.
Posted by: Ken S, Fifth String on the Banjo of Life at November 15, 2006 12:03 PMThere were lots of pans and absolutely no frills in my marriage. That's why I'm divorced.
Take my advice, "girls": If he doesn't promise frills, that's the dealbreaker. Run. Fast and far. A man that can't promise frills is no man at all.
And really, I'm glad I didn't get a cat or a comb. Sometime over those few years, both would have been jammed up his left nostril.
Posted by: Shannon at November 15, 2006 12:17 PMI dunno. Frills are pretty cheap where I live. I'd rather have some nice good heavy Le Creuset pans or something than a bunch of cheap frills that I would just KNOW came from the dollar store.
for the right man, I might even use those Le Creuset pans. And not on his head, either.
Posted by: ricki at November 15, 2006 12:27 PMYeah, I'm really gonna buy my wife pans for a present (eyes rolling), buying cookware as a gift, in my mind, is just above buying household appliances.
Posted by: JFH at November 15, 2006 12:32 PMJFH, even better: buy her power tools.
Heh.
Posted by: Ken S, Fifth String on the Banjo of Life at November 15, 2006 01:20 PMyou gotta be careful with that Ken - I know this guy that bought his girl power tools, and she didn't need him any more.
Posted by: KG at November 15, 2006 01:37 PMTim the 'Tool Man' Taylor describing the settings on the newly-installed whirlpool: "Low, medium, and who needs a man"
Posted by: Rob at November 15, 2006 02:15 PMThinking a lot about that comment about, how in a few years, this sort of gallimaufry will be better-known; then thinking that, as creepy as it sounds, it's the best possible thing. Why, sure, ma'am - by all means let AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE know all about your half-baked hokum! TELL THE WORLD! And please don't toss me in the briar patch!
Posted by: Nightfly at November 15, 2006 02:54 PMI draw the line at pans, and any cookware, as well. My wife can have the frills, the comb, the food, the clothes, the tender happiness, and yes, even my freedom (like she hadn't already taken that). Just as long as she KEEPS HER DAMNED HANDS OFF MY MISE EN PLACE!!!!!!
Posted by: Boy Named Sous at November 15, 2006 04:27 PMOooh, she may get weary...
Young girls, they do get weary...
Wearing that same old funky dress...
Well, maybe she...
Can bring home the bacon, and fry it up in a pan...
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at November 16, 2006 04:43 AM