it comes in pints?

Isn't it, though? I find it very interesting that the media probably has no idea these numbers are even out there.

The Carter stat in particular reflects a lot of changes both in the way that the US military does business and the laws in this country.

But you know, each death is senseless to some people except the death of the unborn....

For me it's never been about the number of casualties (hell, we lost more in five minutes on D-Day than we have in three years in Iraq)... it's been about war management.

I still believe we did the right thing, but I also think we fucked a great opportunity, royally.

For me it's never been about the number of casualties

Unfortunately, the hard core opponents of the war from the beginning have MADE it about the numbers, successfully disctracting the national debate from addressing anything else to as great an extent as would be productive.

The hard core opponents of the war, who are mostly lefties, are emotive in nature. Thus, they are more likely to grasp on the personal rather than the statistics. Indeed, the more hardcore the leftie, the more likely that they'll reject the stats because they won't or can't understand them.

So these statistics will bounce right off the majority of the anti-war.

Especially since these stats make hash of most of their "support the troops by bringing them home" argument.

Is it time to bust out the "Carter Lied!" chants? Please, do lets!

Ken, I must admit that it amazes me that the same people who want to bring home our troops immediately can not grasp the idea of what will happen in the vacuum we leave behind and how THAT particular bird will come home to roost at our own door.

Instant gratification syndrome and near sighted vision, Lemon Stand. It's like telling a child they can't have desert until after dinner, because it'll spoil their appetite, whereupon the child throws a fit and says, "I don't care! I want it now!"

Worse - it's like the parent giving the child desert after all the whining, and then never connecting it to future tantrums in stores, restaurants, schools, etc.